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Jeremy Grantham On U.S. Bonds, Stocks, And A Market Crash

Regular readers of Survival And Prosperity may have noticed I retired the “Crash Prophets” page earlier this month (too much time to update). For those not familiar with this section, it’s where I compiled the investment activities/recommendations of “crash prophets” Dr. Marc Faber, Jeremy Grantham, Jim Rogers, and Peter Schiff (designation earned by being smart enough to spot the 2008 economic crisis and warning of future financial turbulence). Despite the retirement, I will continue to blog about the latest from these soothsayers.

And this morning I want to talk about Jeremy Grantham, the British-born investment strategist and founder/former chairman of Grantham, Mayo, Van Otterloo & Co. (currently overseeing $74 billion in client assets). In case readers missed it, a couple of weeks ago Grantham, whose individual clients have included former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, took part in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. The “crash prophet” discussed the booming U.S. stock market, a potential crash, and U.S. bonds. John Coumarianos wrote on the WSJ website on November 5:

With the S&P 500 up more than 15% this year, it may be time for a reality check. To that end, we spoke with Jeremy Grantham, co-founder and chief investment strategist at Boston-based money manager Grantham, Mayo, Van Otterloo & Co. and a noted spotter of market bubbles.

He thinks U.S. stocks and bonds will fail to generate inflation-beating returns over the next seven years, but he doesn’t see an imminent crash in share prices…

Mr. Grantham has already cemented his legend by arguing that U.S. stocks were overvalued in 2000 and again in 2007, anticipating the market’s two most-recent crashes. He also noted before the 2008-09 financial crisis that the relationship between home prices and income had become unglued, and said at least one large financial institution would fail.

By Mr. Grantham’s lights, U.S. stock prices are again high, with an overall Shiller price/earnings ratio (share price relative to the past decade of real average earnings) over 30, compared with its average of 16.8 since 1880. But profit margins also are unusually high, lending support to the high valuations, he says. And the Federal Reserve’s policy of keeping interest rates low supports share prices by making fixed-income investments less attractive as an alternative to stocks.

So this time, instead of a crash, stock valuations may take decades to revert to anywhere near the long-term average, Mr. Grantham says…

(Editor’s note: Bold added for emphasis)

The actual interview proved insightful, with Grantham communicating his bullishness on foreign stocks. The exchange can be read in its entirety here on The Wall Street Journal website.

By Christopher E. Hill
Survival And Prosperity (www.survivalandprosperity.com)

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Jim Rickards: ‘We’re Going To Go Into A Recession Or The Stock Market Is Going To Have A Very Severe Correction’

Marc Faber isn’t the only “crash prophet” who realizes the financial environment U.S. President-elect Donald Trump could inherit is significantly different than what Ronald Reagan encountered in 1981. Back on December 5 I blogged about James (Jim) Rickards, an American lawyer, economist, investment banker, and best-selling author, who was on RTÉ Radio 1 (Ireland) the prior week informing listeners of the following:

Less regulation, lower taxes, and a lot more infrastructure spending. This was Ronald Reagan’s playbook. This is what Ronald Reagan did in 1981 with a lot of success. But there are big differences, reasons to believe Trump will not be as successful. Namely because when Reagan came in, the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio- the amount of debt relative to our economy- was 35 percent. Today it’s almost 105 percent. Reagan had inflation of 20 percent. Trump has it close to zero. In other words, Reagan had a lot of tailwinds– inflation had to come down, interest rates had to come down, he had fiscal space to run up the debt. Trump has headwinds

(Editor’s note: Bold added for emphasis)

Last Tuesday, Rickards appeared on CNBC TV’s Squawk Box (Asia) and made this prediction about Trump’s first term in the Oval Office:

I definitely see a stock market correction, perhaps a disorderly one Martin. I’m not sure the Fed is ready to cut rates yet. But I expect it will raise rates in March. I think that’s on track. But beyond that, we’re going to go into a recession or the stock market is going to have a very severe correction. Either one of those will cause the Fed to back-pedal.

(Editor’s note: Bold added for emphasis)

CNBC anchor Martin Soong asked his guest, “What is it going to take to cause these two outcomes- what’s the trigger going to be?” Rickards replied:

First of all, it’s already happening. There’s basically a head-long collision coming between perception and reality. So what’s the perception? The market’s rising on the Trump reflation trade. So, Trump wants to cut taxes. Steve Bannon’s talking to his advisors about a trillion dollars of infrastructure spending, cutting regulations. So all these things are viewed to be highly stimulative. So that’s why the market’s going up… But with the Fed, they’re thinking of two things. Number one, they believe in the Phillips Curve… With unemployment at 4.6 percent and that kind of stimulus coming, they know monetary policy acts with a lag- they want to get out ahead of inflation. So they’re on track to raise rates. By the way, they want to raise them anyway independent of this because they’ve got to raise them so they can cut them in the next recession. So the Fed’s on track to raise. The market expects stimulus. But here’s the point. The stimulus is not going to come. Congress has already said tax cuts have to be revenue neutral- that’s going to take away the stimulative effect. They’re going to balk at more spending. We have $20 trillion of debt. A 104 percent debt-to-GDP ratio. So we’re not going to get this trillion dollars of spending. And we’re in the eighth year of an expansion Martin. Keynesian stimulus- if it works at all, it works at the beginning of an expansion or in a recession. Not after 8 years. You don’t get much bang for the buck.


“Fed to reverse course by year-end: Expert”
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By Christopher E. Hill
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Marc Faber Warns Of Trump Inheriting ‘Hugely Inflated Asset Markets’

In an interview with CNBC-TV18 (India) earlier today, Swiss-born investment advisor/money manager Marc Faber talked about a potential financial “poisoned chalice” U.S. President-elect Donald Trump might be inheriting. The publisher of the monthly investment newsletter The Gloom Boom & Doom Report was asked about what he thought “the biggest risk for global markets in 2017” could be. “Doctor Doom,” as the financial press like to call him, responded with a trade war with China and the following:

When Mr Ronald Reagan became president in 1981, he was elected in November, 1980, asset markets were very depressed and interest rates at very elevated level. The treasury yields in America on the 20-year and 30-year bonds was over 15 percent. So, he inherited a huge tailwind of diminishing inflation, falling interest rates and depressed assets that had a huge upside potential in the 1980’s. Trump, he inherits, and that is the biggest risk, hugely inflated asset markets. The bond markets in the developed countries, as you know, have the lowest yield they ever had in the history of mankind. The bond yields will not go much lower. Now, can the 10-years yield that has gone from 1.3-1.4 percent to 2.5 percent, can it go back to 1.7 percent or 1.5 percent? Yes, possible, but it will not go much below 0 percent.

And number two, when you look at stock markets as a percent of the economy, the stock markets around the world as a percent of the economy are at a very high level, especially in the US. In other countries less so, but in the US they are. Furthermore, the US stock market has significantly, and I repeat, significantly outperformed other markets in the world since 2011 and it leaves it vulnerable to an adjustment. The adjustment may happen with the US not going up a lot. But other markets like India, emerging markets in general, Europe outperforming the US, or it could happen with everything coming down and then the US underperforming, going down more than other markets, which actually would be my view, what will happen. This is the risk…

(Editor’s notes: source CNBC-TV18 transcript and bold added for emphasis)

You can read the entire interview here on the CNBC-TV18 website.

By Christopher E. Hill
Survival And Prosperity (www.survivalandprosperity.com)

(Editor’s notes: Info added to “Crash Prophets” page. A qualified professional should be consulted prior to making a financial decision based on material found in this weblog. If this recommended course of action is not pursued, then it must be understood that the decision is the reader’s and the reader’s alone. The creator/Editor of this blog is not responsible for any personal liability, loss, or risk incurred as a consequence of the use and application, either directly or indirectly, of any information contained herein.)

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Jim Rickards: Donald Trump Has Ronald Reagan’s Financial Playbook, But Faces ‘Headwinds’

Marc Faber. Peter Schiff. Now Jim Rickards. Three “crash prophets” who aren’t convinced U.S. President-elect Donald Trump can magically solve America’s economic ills. Rickards, an American lawyer, economist, investment banker, and best-selling author, was on the RTÉ Radio 1 (Ireland) show Today with Sean O’Rourke last Wednesday talking about his new book when he informed listeners of the following:

Less regulation, lower taxes, and a lot more infrastructure spending. This was Ronald Reagan’s playbook. This is what Ronald Reagan did in 1981 with a lot of success. But there are big differences, reasons to believe Trump will not be as successful. Namely because when Reagan came in, the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio- the amount of debt relative to our economy- was 35 percent. Today it’s almost 105 percent. Reagan had inflation of 20 percent. Trump has it close to zero. In other words, Reagan had a lot of tailwinds– inflation had to come down, interest rates had to come down, he had fiscal space to run up the debt. Trump has headwinds

(Editor’s note: Bold added for emphasis)

The editor of the financial newsletter Jim Rickards’ Strategic Intelligence believes the next economic crisis (2018?) will be worse than the 2008 edition. When asked by O’Rourke what people with a “smaller or medium-size financial nest-egg” might do to prepare for it, Rickards advised:

For savers and investors at any level, modest or wealthier, put 10 percent of your investible assets in physical gold or silver. For smaller amounts, silver might do well…

He added some cash is good too.

You can listen to the entire interview (a little over 13 minutes) on the RTÉ Radio 1 (Ireland) website here.

By Christopher E. Hill
Survival And Prosperity (www.survivalandprosperity.com)

(Editor’s note: A qualified professional should be consulted prior to making a financial decision based on material found in this weblog. If this recommended course of action is not pursued, then it must be understood that the decision is the reader’s and the reader’s alone. The creator/Editor of this blog is not responsible for any personal liability, loss, or risk incurred as a consequence of the use and application, either directly or indirectly, of any information contained herein.)

Rickards’ new book…

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Peter Schiff Predicts Gold ‘Going A Lot Higher’ As Trump Fed Draws From ‘Well Of QE’

In a post yesterday about Swiss-born investment advisor/money manager Marc Faber, I noted that the the publisher of the monthly investment newsletter The Gloom Boom & Doom Report reportedly told atendees at a recent investment conference that the U.S. economy “is not doing well” and that he predicted U.S. President-elect Donald Trump will be a “Keynesian” and money printer. This reminded me of an appearance last week by fellow “crash prophet” Peter Schiff on the CNBC TV program Futures Now in which the economist, financial broker/dealer, and author talked about a Federal Reserve under a Trump administration. Schiff warned viewers:

I think they’re going to go back to the same monetary stimulus that failed and is the reason that Donald Trump was elected. A lot of people believe that simply electing Donald Trump solves all the economic problems that are the reason that he was elected. But the problems haven’t been solved and they can’t be solved unless we’re willing to bite the bullet and allow a painful economic restructuring that is going to be necessary to pave the way for real economic growth. But I still think we’re going to go back to the “well of QE.” And that we’re going to get more stimulus. We’re going to get another quantitative easing. And I still believe that the Fed might reverse course and start cutting rates again, even as inflation accelerates…


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The CEO of Euro Pacific Capital mentioned earlier in the segment that “inflation is accelerating at a much faster pace than the Fed is nudging up interest rates.” Within such an environment, gold could shine. Schiff added:

Gold benefits from inflation. The only way that you might undermine gold with inflation is if you have a Paul Volcker-style reaction from the Fed where they agressively raise interest rates to try and restrain it. And that’s not even conceivable that we could do that due to the enormity of the debt that we have. So if people understand that yes, we’re going to get more inflation, but there’s nothing the Fed can do about it but make the problem worse, then people see that there’s a lot of reasons to be buying gold. And certainly 1,200 has acted as pretty solid support. So the fact that we pulled back from 1,320-1,330 on the eve of the Trump victory back down to this support I think provides a good buying opportunity for people to buy more gold. Because I do think it’s going a lot higher during the Trump presidency.

By Christopher E. Hill
Survival And Prosperity (www.survivalandprosperity.com)

(Editor’s notes: Info added to “Crash Prophets” page. A qualified professional should be consulted prior to making a financial decision based on material found in this weblog. If this recommended course of action is not pursued, then it must be understood that the decision is the reader’s and the reader’s alone. The creator/Editor of this blog is not responsible for any personal liability, loss, or risk incurred as a consequence of the use and application, either directly or indirectly, of any information contained herein.)

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Marc Faber Bullish On Gold, Gold Shares, Platinum

Swiss-born investment advisor/money manager Marc Faber was on the CNBC TV show Trading Nation yesterday. The publisher of the monthly investment newsletter The Gloom Boom & Doom Report talked about potential investment opportunities, including precious metals. Dr. Faber told viewers:

As I said last year, precisely a year ago, when Barrick was around $6 and Newmont Mining around $17, I think that gold shares, after the recent correction, are still attractive. Don’t forget, gold has been talked down a lot recently, but the fact is when you say that gold is a currency, what has been the strongest currency on Earth this year? It’s up 11 percent in dollars, 32 percent in British pounds, and in Euros 14 percent. So I don’t think it’s been doing all that badly, even following the recent correction…

(Editor’s note: Bold added for emphasis)

After saying the U.S. economy “is not doing well” and predicting President-elect Trump will be a “Keynesian” and money printer, Faber added:

I would buy gold and platinum– they are depressed.

(Editor’s note: Bold added for emphasis)


“Marc Faber on stocks, bonds, gold and more”
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Regular readers of Survival And Prosperity know that Marc Faber has been a long-time gold bull. Covering the V International Central and Eastern European Investment Conference in Warsaw, Poland, last Friday (where Faber was the keynote speaker), the Hungarian financial news website Portfolio reported:

Faber is optimistic for gold, arguing it should form a 20% component of a good investment portfolio. As a reserve, he prefers holding bullion to purchasing indirectly via ETFs, but maintains that exchange-traded gold funds are not a bad thing either…

By Christopher E. Hill
Survival And Prosperity (www.survivalandprosperity.com)

(Editor’s notes: Info added to “Crash Prophets” page. A qualified professional should be consulted prior to making a financial decision based on material found in this weblog. If this recommended course of action is not pursued, then it must be understood that the decision is the reader’s and the reader’s alone. The creator/Editor of this blog is not responsible for any personal liability, loss, or risk incurred as a consequence of the use and application, either directly or indirectly, of any information contained herein.)

Source:

“Marc Faber: Current era of negative rates ‘a historic first.'” Portfolio.hu. 25 Nov. 2016. (http://www.portfolio.hu/en/economy/marc_faber_current_era_of_negative_rates_a_historic
_first.32147.html). 30 Nov. 2016.

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Marc Faber Suggests Gold Should Make Up 25 Percent Of Portfolio

Earlier this month, I blogged about how Swiss-born investment advisor/money manager Marc Faber informed CNBC TV viewers he holds physical gold stored in safe deposit boxes.

Last Thursday, the publisher of the monthly investment newsletter The Gloom Boom & Doom Report talked more about the shiny yellow metal at a CFA Institute seminar in Chicago. Gail MarksJarvis reported on the Chicago Tribune website on July 22:

Faber told the investment professionals gathered in Chicago that they shouldn’t be prejudiced against gold. Although the typical investment pro keeps less than 1 percent of his or her portfolio in gold, Faber suggests 25 percent. He sees it as protection from a dangerous combination of tremendous government debt and massive bond-buying by central banks globally trying to fight off recession with near-zero interest rates…

(Editor’s note: Bold added for emphasis)

MarksJarvis also noted that “Doctor Doom,” as he’s often referred to by the financial news media, thinks there may be value in precious metals mining stocks.

This shouldn’t come as a surprise to regular Survival And Prosperity readers. I blogged back on May 24 about Faber’s statement the prior week to a CNBC TV audience that gold shares are one of “the most attractive assets in my view”- the others being oil and gas stocks.

By Christopher E. Hill
Survival And Prosperity (www.survivalandprosperity.com)

(Editor’s notes: Info added to “Crash Prophets” page; a qualified professional should be consulted prior to making a financial decision based on material found in this weblog. If this recommended course of action is not pursued, then it must be understood that the decision is the reader’s and the reader’s alone. Christopher E. Hill, the creator/Editor of this blog, is not responsible for any personal liability, loss, or risk incurred as a consequence of the use and application, either directly or indirectly, of any information presented on the site.)

Source:

MarksJarvis, Gail. “‘Gloom, Boom & Doom’ economist pushes for gold.” Chicago Tribune. 22 July 2016. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/ct-marksjarvis-column-marc-faber-money-doom-0724-biz-20160722-column.html). 26 July 2016.

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